Home Invasions

[Bigfoot]

With all the home invasions happening in the Communist state of Ohio, I'm starting to wonder where the best place is for my 12ga can of zombie spray.

Right now its in the safe and the only gun that stays out is my J-frame but with little fingers starting to crawl soon....that has to be secured as well.

What did you guys do (Gary if you cannot remember back *that* far, its ok, I understand!! :D)

[Gunworks]

Many small inexpensive safes out there.
Check Winchesters website or Dicks sporting goods.

[slade797]

Guy I know has a Mossberg 500 mounted right over his front door. His theory is that he can throw his hands up, like a good victim, and come down with a FISTFUL O' THUNDAH!

Dunno how well it would work in the real world, but it keeps the gun away from his rugrats. Well, until they become ambulatory and ....uh, climbulatory.

:cool:

[Gary Stevens]

Shotguns are not the best primary home defense weapon due to the length of the gun. It is an excellent fall back weapon.

If you were to store the shotgun as stated above (over an inside door) you would have it ready but yet out of reach of small children. Using a pump gun with the chamber empty will also help prevent any unwanted accidents.

Having your primary weapon, apparently the J frame, readily available at all times is the key element in a home defense scenario. Most bad guys don't like the sound of gunfire and bullets whizzing past their head. Use the J frame to buy time to move to your secondary weapon the shotgun.

You could also draw an outline of a body on the front porch which might also deter bad guys, and perhaps most everyone else.

FWIW.

[Hairy78]

The best place I can think of for storing a Remington 870 21" is on Lowe's rubber coated hooks mounted inside a closet, over the door. Especially if you have dual doors for the closet that open outwards.;)

[Bigfoot]

I suppose one of those mini GunVault boxes mounted on something would be alright.

There was another B&E about 3 blocks down and 2 over so the shit is getting close. Some friends out in the county has had their farm broken into twice, copper pipe was stolen from the church's A/C unit as well as trying to break into a semi-truck garage!

Probably looking into something a bit more manageable for a first-line home defense gun. The wife won't even shoot the J-frame...too much recoil. I guess its time for another XD to battle my way to the safe to grab the AR.

[Wlktheduk]

"little fingers starting to crawl soon"

Back when my girls were that little, She Who Must Be Obeyed decided that my revolver(s) were not such a good idea for the home defence role. We had a lockable drawer to store the gun inside, which was good. But if you can lock it, curious kids can unlock it. Trust me on this.

She noted that the small grip was ideal for little hands, and that the exposed hammer ("J" frame Model 60, at that time) was VERY easy to cock, which made the trigger pull just too easy. And SWMBO did not like shooting the "J", even with target loads.

However, SWMBO liked shooting the Colt Gold Cup/National Match .45 auto that she was using in PPC matches. Stored in Condition 3 (loaded magazine, chamber empty, hammer down) it is not easy for little hands to load, if they got the drawer open. She was much happier with that system, for a primary home defence pistol. And since she was happy, so was I.:D

Since you favor the XD system, you might want to consider using an XD stored in Condition 3, inside a lock box. If the "little fingers" get the box open, they still have to chamber a round.

As for the 12 gauge zombie spray can. I favored storing ammo on either a shell cuff mounted on the stock, or a side saddle ammo carrier. The shotgun magazine was empty, action locked on an empty chamber, safety ON. If needed, rack the action open. Take a round from the ammo carrier and insert it into the chamber, close action. Load magazine. Safety stays on, until needed.

[Hairy78]

Just had my first experience with a 13 month old wandering around the Casa. I tried to police the house before they came over by putting everything up above my head level. This worked very well, but I can see some issues once the child can get innovative enough to use chairs as tools for elevating themselves.

If I was in your shoes, I think I would carry whatever pistol I left out for home defense on my body or within close enough range that I could remain in control of it at all times. When I left the house it would go with me. Same for the wife, we would both utilize the same carry guidelines we already do for daily carry outside of the home, but in the home.

In my logic, you will be always armed, and the gun will never be outside of your control, the only concern I have is what to do when sleeping? Can you place a hidden holster behind your nightstand? That is what I was thinking I would do if I was in your shoes.

Also, when I was young, I grew up in a very firearm oriented house, and guns were always out and I knew better than to touch them. My parents let me shoot enough in controlled environments that the fascination of guns was not that big of a deal. Not too mention they made me pick up brass after their marathon practice sessions, so I was generally sick of guns most of my youth.

[S Lance]

I think you gave good advice in your post. I just have to point out the irony of you making the below statement.:)


the fascination of guns was not that big of a deal

[Hairy78]

I think you gave good advice in your post. I just have to point out the irony of you making the below statement.:)


Yeah, I grew into it again after being away for school. No, wait, I hate guns, please ship me all that you have and I will make sure they get disposed of properly.

[Bigfoot]

Some idiot in Columbus decided that a correctional facility not operated by the state (although state funded) can dictate whether firearms are allowed on the facility property or not. Despite being able to leave a gun in the car at the courthouse's parking lot, it is a felony for it to be on our grounds.

I know, in the car means concealed...again the entire "you lose your rights" on facility property is in effect.

Inmates have more fucking rights than we do. :mad:

[st33ve0]

I've never been a big fan of storing my best home defense weapons [i.e. zombie spray] in a safe. Guns locked up might as well still be at the gun store if you want to protect yourself. I can understand not wanting to have an arsenal in your lap when the police break in, but I sleep with an 870 loaded up with 6 rounds of 00 Buck with the chamber empty, and my .45 with 10+1 and a spare mag, and lastly I have a tomahawk right next to the bed which I love :cool:

Some people would say I'm paranoid for keeping that much around, I say "with that much in my grasp and the door locked anyway, what do I have to be paranoid about?"

[bigdaddy]

Not paranoid, just prepared :)

[Bigfoot]

"Prepared" that's a tad bit more prepared.

As little faith I have on modern-day "agencies" coming to confiscate my guns, I still don't think I could get off *that* many rounds before buying the farm or getting one of those spiffy 12ga taser slugs in my back from that side window I forgot about.

[Mitch]

I'm going to have to kid-proof my gun locations sometime soon. I have them all over since I'm the only kid in the house right now but several aren't very little kid friendly... Like the ones I keep on my coffee table ;-)

[Bigfoot]

Mitch, not many things in that big old house of your's is very "kid friendly". Stairs, hard floors, etc., I'm not sure how you've survived this long! :D

Sort of makes me wonder how the hell any of us lived with guns all over the house. We all knew damn good and well what kind of an ass busting would be coming if we got into that stuff.....some how I wonder how its different a generation later?

Could it be, all those politically correct "darker than light skinned citizens of almost all the way north but not quite north America" calling my kind STUPID because he doesn't know what a good thrashing is?

[Mitch]

I wear a foam padded kevlar suit when I'm home. I'll have to get one made for the kid as well.

[Hairy78]

I really like your helmet, too.

[Mitch]

Oh, and I'm going to handle gun safety the same way it was handled with me. BY TEACHING MY KID GUN SAFETY. He'll know they're not toys and to never so much as touch one without my expressed permission.

I grew up with a glass gun case that was always unlocked and every gun in it was loaded ("What good is an unloaded gun" - Dad). While most of mine are in a safe now, I'll still have some out for protection. They'll be out of reach while baby Vincent is too young to be taught what they are and how to handle them but when the time comes, they'll pretty much go back to where they are now..

And yes, if my kid gets out of line he's going to get the back-hand. I did, and I deserved it a lot more than I got it! There is a huge difference in a spanking and a beating, though the two seem to be synonymous these days as far as all the lefties are concerned. Nonsense!

[Mitch]

I really like your helmet, too.

The one that matches yours or the super-ultra-elite one with a camera, lamp and shotgun mounted on it?

BAM.

Sorry about XBox. We can't seem to get together on that thing for long. I was summoned by the wife ;-)

[st33ve0]

Oh, and I'm going to handle gun safety the same way it was handled with me. BY TEACHING MY KID GUN SAFETY. He'll know they're not toys and to never so much as touch one without my expressed permission.

I grew up with a glass gun case that was always unlocked and every gun in it was loaded ("What good is an unloaded gun" - Dad). While most of mine are in a safe now, I'll still have some out for protection. They'll be out of reach while baby Vincent is too young to be taught what they are and how to handle them but when the time comes, they'll pretty much go back to where they are now..

And yes, if my kid gets out of line he's going to get the back-hand. I did, and I deserved it a lot more than I got it! There is a huge difference in a spanking and a beating, though the two seem to be synonymous these days as far as all the lefties are concerned. Nonsense!

Good job teaching your kids about gun safety and not freaking out about having guns and kids in the same home like the libtards do...

All that "don't beat your kids" crap is a load of bull...I don't remember a single spanking I got as a kid, but I sure as hell remember the lesson. The worst beating I ever got was when I ran off away from my mother and got lost in a store or a mall or something...don't remember the pain, but I never ran away from her again until I was old enough to go on my own.

[Hairy78]

The one that matches yours or the super-ultra-elite one with a camera, lamp and shotgun mounted on it?



Yeah the first one, you know the one with the drool cup, and all of the scratches where you keep running into things.

[Mitch]

The worst beating I ever got was for besting a guy at a game of pool at Blue Ribbon ;-)

[Bigfoot]

Haha I was hustling pool at country lanes at $20 a game...richest fucking 8 year old till people finally caught on as to why. I spent 3 nights a week in a bowling alley....exactly what is there left to do but play pool??